The Number One Reason to Home School Your Children - Not G Rated
January 28, 2008
Katie received a comment on her I’m Homophobic post. Here is the comment.
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E-mail : confusedanswers@gmail.com
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Comment:
Interesting!
I wonder though, as you seem okay with answering questions in your blog…
what would you do if you child turned out gay. Any of your children, or you ended up with a transgendered child. (I am in no way implying that because your son played with a skirt he’s a homosexual. I am merely asking if you daughter or son came to you and said “Mummy, I’m gay” or “Mummy, I want to be a boy/girl” what would you do? how would you handle such a siutation?)
The comment, in and of itself, is not disturbing. His email address caught my eye right away. So, of course, I had to check out his web site - blog, whatever you want to call it.
Title: M****r f****r
Security: public
so come on, lay it all.. everyone.
WTF.
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And no, even after all that I DON’T feel better.
M****r f****r.
What a lovely post. I replaced some of the letters with asterisks so it would not be quite so offensive. I am sure his parents are so proud him.
Here are some things I cut and pasted from his blog:
Now I go to work where I’ll have 3’s, pre-k, and school agers by myself… 12 kids all by my lonesome. God I need more tea.
I don’t even have a lesson planned today.. I figure all my kiddos (pre-k) will be bringing in their xmas toys like I told em to and so we’ll play on that and talk about xmas and all that jazz. Perhaps I can get some new year planning done! I doubt it! (I wanna play with playdough… so I think that’s gunna be a center I set up and have to “monitor” closely, lol.)
So, he works with children all day.
I’m sad too… cause without the car… I have to accept a ride to work from teh step dragon… but even more so… without a car I dunno how I’m going to get to my babysitting job on the 31st nor to Lex on the 1st.. and that makes me the saddest… :(
And Babysits.
I hope you already see where my concern lies. But, if not…
…he has these pretty rainbow squares are all over his blog.
Got piss poor drunk saturday night… Vodka makes me talk a lot… and I do hope he doesn’t hate me (I kept saying, apparently, “Please don’t hate me after this”). I woke up still a bit drunk (after.. what.. 10 shots I think, I was still dizzy). Mum knows I don’t stay at my brother’s place anymore cause I told her how much I love his shower (oemgeeeee, his bathtub is heavenly!). She took it well but doesn’t believe we aren’t having s-x… stupid parents.
Therapy tomorrow.. woo… or not. :-p
now it’s off to bed.. bed bed bed.. in my lonely misserably matressed bed. I get so spoiled over the weekend. grr.
Stupid Parents!?
I got one of my “good phrases I like hearing” outta him today… he said he missed me… I smiled real big (though I tried to hide it as to not seem like a total dork.) I did tell him there were a few random things I was hoping he’d do at some point in our relationship (but I wasn’t gunna tell him) and that was one. SCORE! Hopefully in the next two weeks I’ll get a second one! :-D
This boy’s name is Joshua. He is 22. As his email address implies, he is a very confused young man.
I don’t think Joshua is really that much different than many of his peers and many people that work in childhood education today. Yes, you read that right - CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. As far as I know, from reading Joshua’s blog, he does not claim to be a Christian. So, I do not expect him to act like one. I do not expect him to not be living in sin. Joshua has the right to live as he pleases. He has the right to live in sin. All we can really do is pray for him. Please do.
The problem is… these types of people are out there teaching children. If this doesn’t make you think twice about sending your kids to public school I don’t know what would. I have been so disappointed by Christian parents downplaying what happens in the public school system. You can read about it in the paper EVERY day! They downplay it and say things like “my kid is not easily influenced,” “my kids are strong in their faith,” etc., etc., etc.
These types of people work at daycares, preschools, elementary, middle and high schools, colleges, churches, summer camps, etc. Don’t be fooled for a minute that people like this will not influence your child someday in some way as long as you keep sending them off to school, summer camp, and yes - even Sunday school. Don’t be fooled!
As for me, I will NEVER send my kids to a public school. It is my job to teach my children.
Enough said. You don’t need a post about the homosexual adoption movement! Do you?
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January 28th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Jeff,
You are exactly right! This is a good example as to why we don’t send our kids to public school. I don’t understand how Christian parent(s) can send his/her/their children to public schools. They are either foolish, selfish, or just plain liars (about their faith). How can a “Christian” parent send their kids to an institution that considers kids to be little more than mutated pond scum. I, on the other hand, believe that my kids were created in the image of God.
Hey “Christian” parents, the bible says, “train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it.” “Christian” parents, God is talking to you not the public schools!
Jeff, I can go on for hours about this. This my favorite topic! You are right on, and I will be back! I will be praying for the fellow above. I hope that someday he learns how much God loves him and how desperately God wants to have a relationship with him.
January 28th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Hey, Ed! So you come out of the woodwork for this post, eh? Oh, I could go on for hours about this too. Another thing that really gets me is the homosexual movement to adopt kids. That’s a story for another time.
You guys should come visit after we get our house built. :)
January 28th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
WooHoo! That’s SO right on! I’ve been homeschooled since K, (I’m 15, in ‘grade’ 11…ish), and I am SO glad my parents didn’t stick me in with scum like that. But I will be praying for Joshua, and thankyou for bringing it back to my attention. :)
God bless,
Sheila
January 29th, 2008 at 12:06 am
Jeff,
We are looking forward to visiting all of you! We hope that you are enjoying your new surroundings. I’ll tell you what… I was thankful that God delivered us from CA! As a matter of fact, the theme in the above post is one of the major reasons why we left CA with our kids.
God bless you Sheila and all of you kids that have moms and dads who care, and God bless all of the wonderful parents who answered God’s call.
Once again, I am diggin’ your blog. I will be back, and WARNING I am not politically correct. LOL!
January 29th, 2008 at 12:13 am
Amen to that! I couldn’t have said it better!
Blessings…
January 29th, 2008 at 12:14 am
I look forward to seeing you around. Don’t be shy!
January 29th, 2008 at 12:35 am
I gotta be honest. I can’t read it all. Don’t want to. Makes me cringe. Makes me sad. Makes me sick. Looking forward to more upbeat posts very soon. :D
January 29th, 2008 at 12:37 am
I stand with you on the whole homosexual thing, I just had one comment.
Although you and I wouldn’t intentionally raise our children to be ‘gay’ God did give us free will.
It is another very good example of why we choose to homeschool.
January 29th, 2008 at 12:57 am
I worked in public education for eight years before my eldest was born and saw that and more. Your children are never safe in the public schools. I will be praying for Joshua!
January 29th, 2008 at 1:08 am
For you Ginger, I will have an upbeat post tomorrow. :)
January 29th, 2008 at 1:25 am
Thanks! You’re so accommodating!
January 29th, 2008 at 7:54 am
I am praying for Joshua (and Josh..if you are reading this, I will pray, even, if you don’t wish for me to). The more time that passes, the more down fallen our world becomes. My children, are/will be home schooled.
January 29th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Every public school teacher that I know that does not have children say that they will never, ever, send their future children to public school. I just ache for children like this teacher/babysitter who have been so influenced by their culture that they believe these lies about themselves. That they think the only way to get love is through deviant behavior. And it is encouraged from such an early age. Since my six year old son greets his best buddy with a hug, should I think he must be gay and encourage him in that? Can’t we see how ridiculous that is? We take a totally innocent behavior and turn it into something it’s not. So, so sad.
January 29th, 2008 at 8:13 am
You are so right! This is exactly why we don’t plan on putting our kids in daycare or in public school.
January 29th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Prime example for why I’m praying that God opens my husband’s eyes and allows us to homeschool our boys! He doesn’t see issues like this as a problem because he believes that we will still be the strongest influence in their lives. Does he not remember who influenced him in his youth? It sure wasn’t his dad. I can teach my children to love others and have concern for them without the influence of the public schools telling them that the sinful behavior is okay. I’m praying for Joshua and others like him who truly need to know the love of Jesus.
January 29th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Beyond that, we had a friend over for a visit with his kids (whole ‘nother rant there!) and his 14 year old daughter informed us that she has a classmate who is pregnant by an 11 year old :( That made me sick, sad, angry, horrified and a whole gamut of feelings all in one sentence. My dh has always waffled on homeschooling because it was a decision I made before I knew how wives were supposed to be “wifely” ;) He is no longer waffling :)
We live in a rather rural area. That school is just 15 miles from here. It is the same school hubby went to and graduated from. The town has less than 10,000 people. Sad. Earlier this year, a para professional was charged with s. assault on a minor. *SHE* had been having relations with a 13 year old boy for about a year :( After she was charged, other boys started making reports. This was someone my dh had grown up with. Even more sad was his comment that “she was always an odd duck, but I don’t think anyone expected THAT out of her!”.
Filth comes from schools in many forms :( I don’t know if there is any one worse than the other overall, some make us sick, but they all hurt the children we are supposed to be protecting :(
January 29th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
My mom is a 6th grade p.s. teacher. Once, a couple years ago, I went to the school to help set up her classroom a few days before school was to start. 3 people came in her room while I was there, 2 of them where gay (the male teacher was obvious, the female teacher was not, but my mom told me). Now, I’m not saying that they are bad people, no worse than any other sinner (and I’m am one of them, though forgiven), and I really don’t know that they are personally teaching that this is okay. But I know the schools do teach it as being okay. The counslers that your children go to when they are ‘confused’ are telling them that it is okay (my h.s. counsler’s brother was gay, he told everyone).
I have a friend that homeschools 3 of her 4 children. The oldest was in 7th grade when she started homeschooling the rest, and so the oldest choose to stay in p.s. My friend regrets letting her stay so much. Despite them being a Christain family and being very active in their church (the oldest teaches sunday school in their church), she doesn’t understand that sin is sin. She doesn’t think there is anything wrong with homosexuality, and she does think her parents are stupid for thinking so.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Calling a CHRISTIAN parent a “liar” for sending them to public school is rather BOLD. We all have personal convictions regarding certain circumstances, but that is for the Lord to judge our hearts, not others. We can disagree & pray for them, but calling them names isnt very Christ-like either.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
“They are either foolish, selfish, or just plain liars (about their faith)”
WOW! That is pretty harsh! I homeschool my 3 children and have 2 more who I plan to homeschool as well, but who are we to judge those who may have to send their children to school for a time. Are we God that we have the right to tell others what they HAVE to do with their children as far as school is concerned. Who’s to say God doesn’t want to use them in the system to bring a little light in a dark world?!?!?!
I still stand by homeschooling, but strongly believe that the harsh things spoken in Ed’s email don’t show much of a Christian attitude either, so is he a liar???
January 29th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I wasn’t calling names. I was listing adjectives.
I didn’t just say liar. I also listed foolish and selfish.The are many other words that could be used as well.The word liar may seem to be a bold word to say in the luke warm American, “Christian” church. I am a Christian husband and father that is not going to be complacent, and I am going to loudly and clearly say what is right.
Let’s look at the wonderful benefits of the public schools
1. Student & Teacher sex.
2. Evolution- A one liner that says God is a liar. There’s that word again (liar)
3. Gangs, Guns and Knives- No metal detector at my house
4. Drug Problem- We don’t have that here either.
5. Children spending time with someone that imparts a value system that probably doesn’t align with Biblical Christianity.
6. Field Trips to the Abortion Clinic- Dad and Mom never have to know
Here is just the short list. If someone supports the above and they claim to be “Christian” how do we classify them? If they are not lying about their faith they must be blind.
I am sure that we are now going to hear about the reasons why someone can’t homeschool. What is the church doing to help families in that position? Unfortunately, In a lot of cases, nothing. They are very busy not being bold.
So here is a good idea, let’s continue not to be “bold” and watch it all fall apart around us. The American Christian Church dies here because we are not going to be bold.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Amen and Amen! Reading this post made my heart so heavy for that boy, the children he’s influencing and their parents. I am so glad I homeschool my children.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
I’m with Ed on this one. Either the public school Christians are liars or delusional.
We are called to discern good from bad. I assume that also means we are to take action with that knowledge. We already know the fruit of public school. The public school institution fails at teaching our children academically, imparting morals to our children and keeping our children safe. Does the public school statistically and consistently do ANYTHING better than the parents?
January 29th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
I went to Christian schools, but during my highschool years my parents sent me to a public highschool. I was a good girl that had a heart for the Lord. I tried to be a light, but I suppose I wasn’t fully prepared for what my parents thought I could handle. To make a long story short, I gave my virginity away the last year of highschool. How I wish my parents had homeschooled me and kept me from the things that I was not prepared for. I don’t believe children should be used as a “light” in a dark system. They need to be guarded, just as a shepherd guards his sheep from the wolves.
Not only guarded, but trained, so that when the time comes they will be able to withstand by the power of Christ, the evil that encompasses this world.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Yesterday a friend and I were shopping in Walmart, and the cashier was a “she/he” or “he/she” a male made up to be a female. Trying way too hard to be feminine! It was really quite sad.
We can see all around us the downfall of our society, yet, we are called to be salt and light in this lost and dying world.
I too, do not believe in putting our children in harms way. But, mature adults need to not retreat from this world until it is clear to us that the night has come when no one can work.
As it is was said by the Messiah…
John 9:4-5
4 I must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day; the night is coming when no one can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
And if indeed it is now HIS life you are living, He is in the world as a light through you. As long as we are here, we are to reflect HIS light into this dark and dying world of ours.
Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of G_d, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
So what did you say to him/her?
January 30th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Well, we thought it was a young woman, the make up and the hair, the voice, the clothes, everything gave the appearance of being a young woman, it was just something that was not right, then on looking closer you could see a bit of 5 o’clock shadow around the chin area. Then we just looked at each other, both thinking, is this a woman or a man?? There was not a tell tell Adam’s apple, and the hands were feminine with polished nails. But… there was just something that said, this is not “one of us” (meaning a female)
We were polite, of course, what was there to say? We left still a bit not sure if what we were thinking was correct. I have seen women, usually older, very heavy women, that also such facial hair.
We figured it is just another “sign of the times” and the world is not going to get any better.
It is not our place as believers to be “correcting” people not under our direct authority, especially non-believers. We are to live in such a way to draw people to the Messiah, by the love we show one for another. We are to have a “winsome” way that will cause those in the world to desire what we have.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Interesting.
January 31st, 2008 at 8:35 am
“Your Mom” , Sarah L and others,
When I have been confronted as you have (at the mkt seeing the he/she or on campus), I too question what I can I say? How do we demonstrate this light w/o pushing or appearing judgmental?
I do know in some incidences when being questioned on the lifestyle I beleive God has set forth for me, I feel the critics are being judgmental….is this our innate or human response?
I love in an area were Bible believing Christians are the minority. Our culture here senses prosecution just being around those outside their denomination.
The foster care committee thinks we are “unconventional” as we enjoy having a large family, garden, “farm” animals, homeschool etc and we are not of the religious majority. If we were “like” our neighbors (by attending the neighborhood church) there would be no problem in our lifestyle.
So friends without the sugar coating and killing others with our words, how do we convey G_d’s Love for them, especially when these people are not under our direct authority.
I am not completely clueless, just would like to hear what others are doing.
Thank you, Laura in UT
February 4th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I feel very sad and frustrated by people like you. I am a christian and grew up in a conservative Baptist church. I have come to learn as I have been studying the Bible that Jesus would never say or think the things you are about public schools. Oh, did I happen to mention that I am also an elementary teacher? I have a 2 year old daughter and will send her to public school. I believe that as Christ followers we have the honor of sharing Jesus with our friends. Isn’t that what we as christians are supposed to be doing? How can our children have a chance to do that if they are not friends with non christians? You are very wrong in your conclusions about public schools also, that there are so many freaks in the public schools influencing your children. There are also very positive amazing people influencing the children in public schools including the students. You know our kids have a huge impact on our world especially the kids in our schools that are sharing the news of Jesus with their friends. I feel sorry for the kids whose parents won’t allow them to be a part of that. :(
February 4th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Leslie,
A Christian teaching in the public schools. I have heard of this. Do you mind if I ask you some questions?
I know that public schools teach evolution which directly contradicts God’s word. When the subject comes up do you tell the kids exactly what the bible says? Where I come from teachers get fired for this.
Where I came from (So. Cal) a young girl can be taken, by school officials, to get an abortion without their parents consent. If the school asked you to do such a thing would you do it?
In So Cal, they teach school children (I believe as young as preschool) about homosexuality. What would you teach my boys about homosexuality?
I have more questions. It is not my wish to insult you or fight with you. I am just trying to understand.
Thank you
-Ed
February 5th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Thanks for your questions. I understand where you are coming from. In the elementary school I teach in we do not teach evolution or creation. (It’s not in our curriculum at this level) As a teacher I am limited in what I can say and do, however there are ways that Jesus finds his way even into our public schools. Often times it is through our Christ following students. Believe me I would love to teach about creation and what the Bible teaches in public school, yet as you mentioned teachers may be punished for this and are looked at in a negative way. So… we as christian teachers have to get creative and find ways to show the kids in our classrooms Jesus through the fruits of the spirit that we have within us.
There are a lot of grey areas between the separation of Church and State, so I’m sure I have crossed the line a few times. I am very careful not to upset anyone however because I do not want to be looked upon as a trouble maker and then have school districts make the assumption that all christian teachers are trouble makers. We need Christ following teachers in our schools as well as Christ following students. (more about that later)
The children in our public schools need Jesus just as much as we do. There is no way we are going to be able to reach as many people as we can for Jesus Christ without infusing Christ followers into our public schools.
Yes, there are non Christ following teachers that do believe in evolution and may be homosexual, however it is not mandated that they teach these things. I am not denying that some teachers may teach evolution and hit the topic of homosexuality in the context of different families, however we are not made to teach these things. So, I do not teach about evolution or homosexuality. I strongly believe that as parents we have a huge role in their child’s education and spiritual development. As a public school teacher I need a lot of support from Christian parents in this area. For example, helping your children to come along side their non Christ following friends and inviting them to church or into your home. I believe that the public schools are a mission field and we must be a positive influence in them to win more people/kids for Christ!
As far as the abortion issue, I am a teacher in an elementary school, so I don’t know much about how much teachers are and can be involved in that process. I know however that you can not be made to be involved in something like that if it contradicts what you believe in.
So, I guess what I am trying to say is yes, there are things that probably are being taught in public schools that you do not want your children learning, however, if we take our kids out of the public schools, what is left? We have christian teachers that are teaching the general curriculum and exclude the topics of evolution, homosexuality, abortion, etc. but are not able to teach God’s word or share about Jesus. How are these kids supposed to hear about the good news of Jesus Christ then?
I grew up going to public school and did have a teacher that taught about evolution in high school. By that time I was strong enough in my faith that it didn’t affect me. So I think we as parents have a huge responsibility to teach our kids how to be strong in their faith and become a positive influence on their friends and teachers and not the other way around.
I appreciate your questions and the way you presented them as non-attacking. I know there are people who disagree with me. I just feel that God has called me to minister in the public schools and so that’s that.
Thanks and God bless.
May 1st, 2008 at 7:52 pm
I can’t believe people like this. Worst part is, they don’t all wear their sins on their sleeves, so to speak. I mean, who says we can trust our private school teachers not to be sinners as well? Even if we homeschool our children, they are still exposed to this kind of lifestyle in every facet of our modern society.
These people represent a greater threat to America than terrorists ever have or likely ever will, because they are attacking our children and our way of life from the inside out! Homosexuality is a plague. We have tried curing people, but the infection is spreading faster than we can work. The only way I think we’ll get ahead of it is to quarantine those that are too far gone to help. Just let them have their own little state and I’m sure we’ll all be much happier.